The State of Working America Podcast

The State of Working America Podcast is part of EPI’s effort to raise workers’ voices to ensure they are heard in the economic policy debate. 

Core topics include workers’ rights, inequality, race, gender, labor markets, education and immigration, but we’re interested in all things related to social justice.



Episodes

Season 8, Episode 7 • June 11, 2026

A new way to think about the minimum wage

In partnership with the Roosevelt Institute and Oklahoma Policy Institute, Economic Policy Institute hosted this webinar that shares a new, evidence-backed framework for raising the federal minimum wage. 

The webinar included Roosevelt Institute Director of Worker Power and Economic Security Patrick Oakford, Economic Policy Institute Senior Economist Ben Zipperer, Oklahoma Policy Institute’s Carly Putnam, and was hosted by Economic Policy Institute Executive Vice President Naomi Walker.

Oklahoma Policy Institute is part of EPI’s Economic Analysis and Research Network, or EARN, which is a network of close to 60 state-focused research, policy, and advocacy organizations in 43 states + DC.

 

Season 8, Episode 6 • May 29, 2026

Public education under attack

EPI’s Chief Economist, Josh Bivens; Director of EPI’s Program on Race, Ethnicity, and the Economy, Valerie Wilson; and Economist Hilary Wething, along with a special introduction by Peter Rivera from the Hewlett Foundation, discuss public education and how critical public goods are being attacked at both the state and federal levels.

Fully funded and strong public schools—with fairly compensated educators—lead to a society with high achieving students and fewer teacher shortages that disrupt learning. Yet policy initiatives such as school vouchers threaten to divert resources from public education when what is needed is greater investment, not less

 

Season 8, Episode 5 • May 15, 2026

AI—Making employee disempowerment new again

There is much panic around AI’s impact on the labor market. Efforts to blame inequality and unemployment on AI and technology divert attention from the root cause: excess employer power. The best “AI policy” to protect workers would be boosting workers’ power by improving social insurance systems, removing barriers to organizing unions, and sustaining lower rates of unemployment. Economic Policy Institute’s Chief Economist Josh Bivens and Senior Economist Ben Zipperer joined Director of Government & Advocacy Samantha Sanders in a conversation on how policymakers should respond to the rise of AI.

 

Season 8, Episode 4 • April 24, 2026

State of Working America Q1 Economic Briefing

Economic Policy Institute Chief Economist Josh Bivens and Senior Economist Ben Zipperer, in conversation with Senior Policy and Economic Analyst Chandra Childers, on how current policies are impacting working people and families, along with solutions that create a more affordable life for everyone.

 

Season 8, Episode 3 • March 6, 2026

Building worker power

The Trump administration brazenly attacks workers and their unions, undermining federal labor laws and emboldening corporate union busters. Amid this escalating US worker rights crisis, states across the country are stepping up to strengthen threatened labor standards, level the playing field for unionizing workers, and expand pathways to collective bargaining.

Enjoy this discussion with policy experts, organizers, and state advocates from EPI’s Economic Analysis and Research Network (EARN) on building worker power in the states when federal labor laws are under attack.

 

Season 8, Episode 2 • February 24, 2026

Who’s got the power?

Enjoy this conversation with author, labor historian, union organizer and Economic Policy Institute Senior State Policy Strategist Dave Kamper about his exciting new book, Who’s Got the Power?: The Resurgence of American Unions.

 

Season 8, Episode 1 • February 17, 2026

What’s missing from the affordability debate

Everyone is talking about affordability — and making the same mistake.
Enjoy this conversation from EPI’s webinar series, with Economic Policy Institute President, Heidi Shierholz; Director of the Program on Race, Ethnicity and the Economy, Valerie Wilson; and Chief Economist, Josh Bivens; moderated by Samantha Sanders, about what’s missing from the current debate!

 

Season 7, Episode 1 • May 13, 2025

Why We Have to Keep Talking About Reparations in 2025

In an environment where pursuing equity goals could invite dangerous scrutiny, one could reasonably ask: Is it still prudent to talk about reparations?  Join Kyle Moore, an economist with the Economic Policy Institute’s Program on Race, Ethnicity, and the Economy (PREE) for this episode of the State of Working America podcast about his piece on Why we have to keep talking about reparations in 2025 

 

Season 6, Episode 2 • November 4, 2024

Rooted In Racism

In this episode, EPI’s Executive Vice President Naomi Walker is joined by Chandra Childers, senior policy and economic analyst with the Economic Analysis and Research Network (EARN), to discuss this history and impact of the Southern economic development model. Southern politicians claim that “business-friendly” policies lead to an abundance of jobs and economic prosperity for all Southerners. But is that true? The data actually show a grim economic reality. Learn more about the failed Southern economic development model in the Rooted in Racism series of reports at EPI.

 

Season 6, Episode 1 • June 13, 2024

The Democratic Advantage

EPI’s Executive Vice President Naomi Walker is joined by EPI Chief Economist Josh Bivens to discuss the historical economic performance of different administrations as detailed in his report, Economic performance is stronger when Democrats hold the White HouseAccording to the report, there is a pronounced Democratic advantage in nearly every measure of macroeconomic performance since 1949.

 

Season 5, Episode 1 • July 11, 2023

Ask An Expert: Why have the lowest-paid workers seen historic wage growth?

  • Economist Elise Gould discusses new Economic Policy Institute research showing that the lowest-paid U.S. workers saw historic wage growth between 2019 and 2022, even after accounting for high inflation.

 

Season 5, Episode 2 • August 25, 2023

Ask An Expert: What is the state of racial equity 60 years after the March on Washington?

Sixty years later, policymakers have failed to meet the economic demands of the March on Washington. Policy analyst Adewale A. Maye discusses new Economic Policy Institute research finding that post-civil rights era legislation has largely failed to address disparities in wages, wealth, and homeownership for Black Americans.

 

Season 5, Episode 3 • January 17, 2024

Ask An Expert: What does the surge in workers going on strike mean for racial and economic justice?

In 2023, workers across the country—from Hollywood writers to autoworkers, nurses, and Starbucks baristas—went on strike to improve their working conditions. Heidi Shierholz, president of the Economic Policy Institute and former chief economist at the U.S. Department of Labor, discusses what this surge in labor actions means for workers and the fight for racial and economic justice.

 

Season 4, Episode 1 • March 16, 2022

The Black Agenda

  • Anna Gifty Opoku-Agyeman discusses her new book, The Black Agenda.
  • Watch on YouTube

 

Season 3, Episode 1 • June 3, 2021

Fact-checking the labor shortage hype

  • With Heidi Shierholz and Josh Bivens of the Economic Policy Institute
  • Watch on YouTube
Season 3, Episode 2 • June 8, 2021

The Whiteness of Wealth

  • With Dorothy A. Brown, author of The Whiteness of Wealth and Asa Griggs Candler Professor at Emory University School of Law
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Season 3, Episode 3 • August 4, 2021

Democracy, Race, & Justice: Writings of Sadie Alexander. Nina Banks

  • Nina Banks discusses her new book Democracy, Race, and Justice: The Speeches and Writings of Sadie T. M. Alexander.
  • Watch on YouTube

 

Season 2, Episode 1 • November 26, 2019

Native Americans too often left out of economic debate

  • With Patrice Kunesh, director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis’ Center for Indian Country Development
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Season 2, Episode 2 • December 3, 2019

Racialized women’s unrecognized community work uplifts everyone

  • With Nina Banks, economics professor at Bucknell University and a board member at the Economic Policy Institute
  • Watch on YouTube
Season 2, Episode 3 • December 10, 2019

America’s debtor prison system must be stopped • State of Working America Podcast

  • With Damion Shade, criminal justice policy analyst at the Oklahoma Policy Institute
  • Watch on YouTube
Season 2, Episode 4 • January 7, 2020

‘Curb Cut-Outs’: How Black America’s Struggles Bolster U.S. Democracy

  • With Tanya Wallace-Gobern, director of the National Black Worker Center Project
  • Watch on YouTube
Season 2, Episode 5 • January 7, 2020

America’s labor revival

  • With Steven Greenhouse, author of Beaten Down, Worked Up and a long-time New York Times labor reporter
  • Watch on YouTube
Season 2, Episode 6 • January 7, 2020

Millennials Energize the U.S. Labor Movement

  • With Kayla Blado, President of the Nonprofit Employee and Media Relations Director at EPI
  • Watch on YouTube

 

Season 1, Episode 1 • October 15, 2019

America’s racist economy

  • With Valerie Wilson, director of EPI’s Program on Race, Ethnicity, and the Economy (PREE)
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Season 1, Episode 2 • October 22, 2019

Reimagining the American dream

  • With Chris Lu, former deputy secretary of labor under President Barack Obama, University of Virginia Miller Center fellow
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Season 1, Episode 3 • October 29, 2019

Building worker power

Season 1, Episode 4 • November 5, 2019

Killing U.S. manufacturing is a policy choice

  • With Mickey Ray Williams, Firestone plant worker in Gadsden, Alabama, and Rob Scott, EPI director of trade and manufacturing policy research
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Season 1, Episode 5 • November 12, 2019

 Uber and the gig economy fallacy

  • With driver and activist Sergio Avedian and EPI Distinguished Fellow Larry Mishel
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Season 1, Episode 6 • November 19, 2019

I want to see myself in the data

  • With Rhonda Sharpe, director of the Women’s Institute for Science, Equity and Race
  • Watch on YouTube